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		<title>By: xylene</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>xylene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last line was superb !.
Now we might have to think twice before lying on the surgery table :( or better go to a surgeon with good perks and bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last line was superb !.<br />
Now we might have to think twice before lying on the surgery table <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  or better go to a surgeon with good perks and bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lekhni

Sorry for making the pedantic point. The executive branch values life (say, in case of an Amtrak accident or a National Rail accident) so I used &#039;government&#039; as synonymous to &#039;executive&#039; branch hence the distinction. :-(

Of course, technically those two and the legislative comprise the government but we were discussing that specific thing hence... Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lekhni</p>
<p>Sorry for making the pedantic point. The executive branch values life (say, in case of an Amtrak accident or a National Rail accident) so I used &#8216;government&#8217; as synonymous to &#8216;executive&#8217; branch hence the distinction. <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, technically those two and the legislative comprise the government but we were discussing that specific thing hence&#8230; Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: lekhni</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>lekhni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Shefaly:&lt;/strong&gt;  Come on Shefaly, surely you know what I am referring to - there are 3 branches of government, and the judiciary is just one of them :)
Your gravatar still appears in my dashboard, but not in the comments section :( Maybe you should give it time :( Also see if the same thing happens in other blogs too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Shefaly:</strong>  Come on Shefaly, surely you know what I am referring to &#8211; there are 3 branches of government, and the judiciary is just one of them <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Your gravatar still appears in my dashboard, but not in the comments section <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe you should give it time <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Also see if the same thing happens in other blogs too..</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lekhni:

&quot;..courts are part of the govt. too&quot;.

No, no, they are not.

The independence of the judiciary is one of the key cornerstones of the UK and the Indian ways of structuring constitutional governance. That politicians - not government, not parliament - try to influence them in India is very sad; that the judiciary gets influenced is sadder still. But courts are meant to be and in the UK, are independent of the government.

If the government disagrees with a court judgement, e.g in case of the BAE and Serious Fraud Office case in the UK, they can apply to appeal and if they are allowed, they can appeal the decision in a higher court.

The higher court can also reject the government&#039;s appeal as happened here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/dec/21/iraq.iraq

So the courts are very much _not_ the government, I am afraid.. :-)

PS: Let&#039;s see if the Gravatar appears now. Thanks for your patience with my experimenting and thanks for the advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lekhni:</p>
<p>&#8220;..courts are part of the govt. too&#8221;.</p>
<p>No, no, they are not.</p>
<p>The independence of the judiciary is one of the key cornerstones of the UK and the Indian ways of structuring constitutional governance. That politicians &#8211; not government, not parliament &#8211; try to influence them in India is very sad; that the judiciary gets influenced is sadder still. But courts are meant to be and in the UK, are independent of the government.</p>
<p>If the government disagrees with a court judgement, e.g in case of the BAE and Serious Fraud Office case in the UK, they can apply to appeal and if they are allowed, they can appeal the decision in a higher court.</p>
<p>The higher court can also reject the government&#8217;s appeal as happened here:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/dec/21/iraq.iraq" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/dec/21/iraq.iraq</a></p>
<p>So the courts are very much _not_ the government, I am afraid.. <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS: Let&#8217;s see if the Gravatar appears now. Thanks for your patience with my experimenting and thanks for the advice.</p>
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		<title>By: lekhni</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>lekhni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;prasoon:&lt;/strong&gt; Human nature being what it is, what do you think ? :(

&lt;strong&gt;Shefaly:&lt;/strong&gt;   I agree that doctors have to treat everyone, in theory.  There are ways that they can refer patients to others - for suspected other issues, for instance.   For instance, lots of things, trust me, can be blamed on a suspected dental infection :P
Courts putting values on dead people is what I mean - courts are part of the govt. too :)
And hey, your gravatar seems to be working fine in my Dashboard, so I guess it will start appearing in future comments.  Why it doesn&#039;t show up already in the comments section is a mystery.

&lt;strong&gt;manuscrypts:&lt;/strong&gt;  Oh yes, the operating word being &quot;business&quot; of saving lives :)  Like in every business, they follow the money ;)


&lt;strong&gt;nefariousoutlook:&lt;/strong&gt;  Welcome, new commenter!  Thanks for the compliments. Keep visiting:)

&lt;strong&gt;Kamini:&lt;/strong&gt;  The ex-wife does appear to be someone not easily swayed by emotion :) She knows our doctor well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>prasoon:</strong> Human nature being what it is, what do you think ? <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Shefaly:</strong>   I agree that doctors have to treat everyone, in theory.  There are ways that they can refer patients to others &#8211; for suspected other issues, for instance.   For instance, lots of things, trust me, can be blamed on a suspected dental infection <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Courts putting values on dead people is what I mean &#8211; courts are part of the govt. too <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And hey, your gravatar seems to be working fine in my Dashboard, so I guess it will start appearing in future comments.  Why it doesn&#8217;t show up already in the comments section is a mystery.</p>
<p><strong>manuscrypts:</strong>  Oh yes, the operating word being &#8220;business&#8221; of saving lives <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Like in every business, they follow the money <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>nefariousoutlook:</strong>  Welcome, new commenter!  Thanks for the compliments. Keep visiting:)</p>
<p><strong>Kamini:</strong>  The ex-wife does appear to be someone not easily swayed by emotion <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  She knows our doctor well!</p>
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		<title>By: Kamini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is brilliant, Lekhni.  Chilling and funny at the same time. Hope the ex-wife kills the rest of his day!
Kamini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is brilliant, Lekhni.  Chilling and funny at the same time. Hope the ex-wife kills the rest of his day!<br />
Kamini.</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lekhni

I am testing that new Gravatar advice from you. Please delete this message. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lekhni</p>
<p>I am testing that new Gravatar advice from you. Please delete this message. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
		<link>http://elekhni.com/2008/07/in-nhs-land-surgeons-save-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lekhni

This new measure will also interest you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7520705.stm

There is no such thing as easy money or a free lunch (except at one&#039;s parents&#039; house!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lekhni</p>
<p>This new measure will also interest you.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7520705.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7520705.stm</a></p>
<p>There is no such thing as easy money or a free lunch (except at one&#8217;s parents&#8217; house!).</p>
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		<title>By: manuscrypts</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuscrypts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so now they can proudly say they&#039;re in the business of saving lives.. good one :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so now they can proudly say they&#8217;re in the business of saving lives.. good one <img src='http://elekhni.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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